November 3, 2009
Our councillor’s sojourn to Tamworth seems to have had a positive
effect… from a testy unpleasant previous meeting to all laughs and smiles at last night’s meeting. Perhaps this is the part where they start working together for the betterment of the area…
A fairly light agenda proved to be a long (and not so unpleasant) event as the councillors listened to the Auditor’s report on Council finances. Even the Price Waterhouse Coopers speaker acknowledged his frankness could come in light of our already signing off on their services for another 12 months. Council finances are in pretty reasonable shape, we’ve lost a little but with the grants etc over the last year we’ve come out of it ok (not fantastic but ok). Sadly the auditor did suggest we continue to receive rates increases bah Humbug… I do get frustrated at many councillors still aren’t reading the material provided but alas one assured me that ‘they ask the questions they feel the public would ask” mind you we aren’t idiots and some of their questions are – well…. ordinary.
There has been a small win for the residents of Casula as an additional condition has been added to the work being done by the ARTC for noise wall installation, however in light of today’s news that ARTC is pulling the pin on the project I’m not 100% sure if we will ever see the benefit of this win.
Another small win is the installation of Information boards and leaflet stands in the rural post offices, all going well this should allow the residents of the rural areas at least an over view of matters in Liverpool and provision to make comments and participate in programs etc
Gallery numbers were down last night, we’ve been getting pretty good attendance but whether or not it is that items are still being dealt with in closed session or the ‘excitement’ of the new council has waned. There are still a number of matters we don’t hear a response on… we are still unaware of the results from the closed session/ action where the Mayor hushed/differed discussion on her less than attractive outburst to councillor McGoldrick. I’ve asked individual councillors to have questions without notice answers be included in the minutes and this is beginning to happen…thank you. Just a note, the questions without notice should be when a Councillor is representing the community on issues they feel need to be discussed in Council or require additional information. Not necessarily questions pertaining to pot holes and garbage pickups, they, like us … can use the online service for potholes etc or hand them on to the GM for action by the appropriate department.
Can I urge all the readers of this column to watch out for a couple of items soon to be on display for public comment:
1) already on display – the proposed sale of public land needs your comments, if you think a particular piece of land should be sold, or used for a public park, this is your opportunity to comment and voice an opinion.
2) Chipping Norton Residents’ need to comment on the Bankstown Air traffic changes that WILL affect them.
3)All residents need to review the proposed CBD parking strategy and make comment, I’ve been involved (as your rep) in these and suggest if you feel ½ hr parking in Macquarie & George isn’t enough or have other suggestions this is the time to let Council know… (I can’t imagine what you can do 1/2hr and would prefer this to be 1hr parking) There is a detailed report available and is well worth your time to read and make comment.
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Posted by Signe
July 28, 2009
This week’s meeting saw a number of young people address the council on
the Graffiti Management Strategy, 5 members of the Ted Noff’s Street University attended and pleaded their case for the continuance of the graffiti walls. Media was present and the young people spoke extremely well putting forward a strong and passionate case. Councillor Lucas as always took the opportunity to grandstand a little and to berate these same young people for tagging and illegally painting on private property. Cllr Napolitano jumped to their defence although I believe these young men and women were more than capable of understanding the councillors need to puff and posture. All in all I believe they added a fair and reasonable perspective to an issue that in Liverpool gets far more concern than is warranted. Illegal graffiti is a big problem, everywhere, but for some reason here in Liverpool a number of our councillors consider it by far our biggest issue. I, though consider the slow death of the southern part of our city far more urgent, the need for protection of our citizens from undue noise and pollution, the abject need for buses to service our outer suburbs and some of our inner suburbs, the need to service our rural areas better, cleaning and improving the CBD and providing easy affordable parking in our centres, the need to provide job opportunities for our locals and training and education for our unemployed and of course the need to have our councillors prepared to debate and discuss issues other than their pet project or raising their image/ profile.
Another matter: if councillor Lucas has proof or substance to his allegations of selling off historical items from the Casula Powerhouse please put it forward to either the GM or the police, making statements as he did last evening is divisive and unfair to the vast majority of council employees who are hurt or smeared with the innuendo that is left after such statements. If in fact items have been sold this is an issue for the police or at the very least warrants further investigation and allegations in chambers is inappropriate at best.
It concerns me greatly that debate is oft not included across the agenda, and it seems conversations with others after the meeting indicates that I’m not alone here.
Just a note also as I have been asked…Yes I did participate in the CBD Committee meeting, I did offer comments and opinion although not included in the minutes as did Frank Cartisano and a number of other participants. The minutes don’t seem to reflect that a healthy debate on a number of issues was had and that an opinion on a number of issues was expressed and not only by council staff and councillors.
Another question I’d like to raise is: why do we need 7 councillors to attend the NSW Annual Conference in Tamworth? And that while adding motions to be included in the agenda could it not be suggested that councils all over the state (whom I believe are all doing it as tough as we are) could nominate 2-3 people from their ranks to represent the council at such events. At $990 per person plus accommodation and travel this is an expense I believe we could have pulled back on… alas not one of our councillors must have considered this as an option or suggested it and from all accounts had pretty much decided which 7 were getting the all expenses paid trip away. I am happy to be corrected here, but as I mentioned recently about the trip to Canberra surely notes can be taken, trust can be implied and reason could take place and 4 days away for at least 4 councillor’s could have been saved by the rate payers of Liverpool.
Lastly a reminder that the draft Bike plan is on public display at the moment and if it interests you what plans council has for both commuter and passive bike travel into the future, please have a look on councils website or phone the staff and make comment.
PPS… don’t forget to read the previous blog about men’s shed’s I’m keen to get some feedback before I invest in books and instruction manuals to help initiate the process of getting one started
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Posted by Signe
June 30, 2009
Last night saw the rescission motion for the School at Hoxton Park
Rd lost. A number of residents are understandably disappointed as well as the many hopeful parents of students to attend are delighted. Sadly this issue is being portrayed as racial, yet for those of us who have been keeping a close eye on the situation are well aware it is more about the access than anything else. Even though the school is approved to go ahead, the light at the end of this tunnel is that the school board is still looking to work with the residents so all involved will get a positive outcome. There is still time to lobby the State Govt and the RTA to reconsider access via Hoxton Park Rd which with the installation of a private access road and hopefully a walk bridge will allay any concerns for safety.
Most people who attend do so for their one particular issue. Meeting after meeting we see people attend the council meeting for their issue and leave. There are a few of us who attend to watch what is happening all over the LGA. And I have to say, after the school vote, not much else happened. Pretty much they moved through the agenda with their rubber stamp, ticking the boxes and shuffling paper. Cllr Lucas and Harle both presented council with awards presented to them (on behalf of council), Cllr Harle for the GRCCC hosting Council had done over the last two years and Cllr Lucas from the Cities for Climate Protection Program for reaching Level 5. Although somewhat ambiguous in that I’m not aware if 5 is the top or half way etc, but his comments later that he thought it amusing he accepted the trophy when he doesn’t believe in any of that global warming guff made me wonder… who of Councillors’ does care about the environment. I am a member of the LCC environment advisory committee so I am aware that the council on the whole has a program working towards a better environment, but how much can be achieved if our councillors don’t give a damn? I find it a little disillusioning that this even is a debate. Forget the rhetoric, shouldn’t we as human beings care about our planet, shouldn’t we be aiming to impact less not more. I attended a sustainability symposium last Friday and was taken when one of the keynote speakers said (I Paraphrase) why do we aim to just impact less when we should be aiming at creating a better environment not just minimise harm. Here we are in Australia debating on how much is enough effort, why aren’t we saying this is our home, what can we do to improve and enhance our interaction with nature, not just how much is acceptable to damage and not feel bad.
Two weeks ago a colleague (Bill Cashman) and I sent off a press release to the local papers asking who of our councillors are willing to declare where they stand on the issue of resource management and sustainable power initiatives. With so many things happening locally this has not as yet been taken up, so when will it become important, when will we know if there is support of our environment amongst our elected few?
I get pretty indignant on this topic, I would like to buy an electric car, but I can’t… there isn’t one. And if I did, it would run on coal generated electricity when here in Australia we have an abundance of sun, wind, wave and geothermic options. None of which are in place in any real manner, and if and when the vehicle makers do embrace the technology of electric or alternative cars, will I be able to afford them on my humble salary? WHEN will all this become important and not merely a laughing matter in council chambers and the like?
If I sound disillusioned I am, I asked a councillor after the meeting what had happened to debate after the school motion was handled and he said “I pretty much lost interest after the motion was lost, we discuss stuff in there (pointing to the councillors room) which probably isn’t right.” I and others attend council meetings week after week to watch democracy in action. That was “in”-space-”action” not inaction) There were other matters on the agenda, so it seems if we lose our favourite, we don’t want to play anymore…this is crap and I expect more… where is the passion?
Enough of my rant, I guess wanting a better city, better environment etc is a big ask. There is so much happening in Liverpool, did you know that Railcorp wants to build a car park on the Remembrance Drive Park (Green space) along the highway at Warwick Farm, did you know that the residents of Casula (& Warwick Farm) still aren’t getting any noise walls from the rail or from the M5. Did you know that residents in Cecil Hills are fighting to save the native reserve (lakes) across from their homes, that the residents of Kemps Creek watched as the OTC heritage items were bulldozed into oblivion, that if you live further west that Carnes Hill the idea of catching a bus to Liverpool is a daydream and a cab will cost anything up to $110 to get you home. So much is happening and they lose heart after one loss…damn I want more, I expect more.
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Posted by Signe
June 16, 2009

Last night saw a huge crowd of people attend the Council meeting designated to decide on the fate of the proposed school at 612 Hoxton Park Rd.
Many are aware that the residents have worked tirelessly to point out to council and the community that this particular location was not appropriate for safety and traffic reasons. I have also commented on Street corner that I would not send my children to this location, it’s a 2600sqm site proposed to school 800 children and 50 or so teachers and support staff. Anyone who knows me will know that this for me is not a religious issue; this is purely a “locational” one… alas last night the councillors in their lack of infinite wisdom voted to allow the school to proceed.
To their credit Cllrs Hadchiti, Lucas & Harle voted against this proposal on all the right reasons… namely the aforementioned location and that the residents themselves were pleading for support against the development. Sadly the other councillors hid behind jargon and rhetoric rather than vote for what was best for the community. The Applicant advised he would abide by the council decision regardless of the outcome; some of our councillors ignored the residents in favour of a school whose origins were outside our LGA.
Onto other matters raised during the meeting, Councillors had the opportunity to have a 2.5% pay increase and Cllr Stanley proposed that the councillors choose not to accept the 2.5%. Good news I say, as I had already begun preparing documents to stifle any chance they might have had, with council in dire financial circumstances (hence the need for 9% rate increase) the thought of paying some of these councillors to do so very little is abhorrent.
Other matters were mostly operational issues, but I heard that Cllr Lucas wouldn’t be available for the Heritage committee meeting next week as he was attending the Canberra summit… which takes me back to my last meeting comment of how many councillors put their hand up to attend on our dollar…seems my request to send two and take notes fell on deaf ears…alas I wonder what the cost of this sojourn costs us, the people of Liverpool.
The Lehmann oval situation has become untenable and council has closed it for sporting groups, hear! hear!… this particular oval has been a money pit for way too long. Perhaps we could encourage the locals to set up a community garden on the site, according to Cllr McGoldrick…”someone” is looking at a proposal for the land… I guess time will tell although Cllr McGoldrick was keen to withhold info for the moment.
My understanding is that the Hoxton Park School site is to be readdressed at the next council meeting on the 29thas a rescission motion was lodged last evening. More on this as it comes to hand.
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Posted by Signe
May 20, 2009
I ask myself why don’t more people come to the council forums, logic tells me, time, interest and lack of knowledge but I have to say I am constantly impressed by the content. Each month council provides staff to bring the community up to date on matters that are of concern to either the community or generally the council area. Last night had council staff answering questions about the draft Management documents, two rather intense books that outline the coming years expenditure and income. Now I’ve spent the last couple of weeks reading through them and I had a number of questions…ok 9… (with more still to come) but as I was at the forum I was able to ask and get answers to each of them. It’s a reasonably informal approach as compared to contacting council over the phone and hoping that the person on the end of the line doesn’t think you some kind of nut for not knowing some basic things, but I got answers to all my questions as did the other 16 or so people who came along. I recognise that not everyone is interested in the budget, but mostly we are interested in the parks, the roads and the general amenity of the city and I like being able to ask “dumb’ questions from time to time and it puts a face to the council staff.
Back to the budget, you still have time to read and comment on the LCC Draft budget, if you need a copy, call council on 1300362170 and ask that one be posted to you, if not it is available on councils website www.liverpool.nsw.gov.au. Then if you want money spent in a particular area you can make a submission and at least have it considered. So the one wonders, why wouldn’t everyone want to be involved…remember you can simply come along Tuesdays refer previous post “lost for words” and choose which forum suits you best…then come along.
If you aren’t busy on Thursday night drop by Liverpool Mall between 5.30 & 7.30 and sign the petition for noise walls for the residents of Casula Mall… at about 7.30 Sylvia Hale MLC will accept the petition to then present it to the NSW Parliament for consideration. These residents need your help and trust me, when and if the time comes that you and your area need help they will remember the help Liverpudlian’s gave them in their hour of need.
One more little thing, I value you your comments so please feel free to comment here, I always want to make sure I’m representing what the people of Liverpool want, but without feedback I’m flying blind, so help me out and make a comment here.
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Posted by Signe